Subject: SHSBC 63

QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD: STATES OF BEINGNESS

A lecture given on 27 September 1961

Thank you.
Now, I suppose it's about time you asked me questions. This is the what of
what? What year?
Twenty-seventh? I've been dating letters all day 26th. What do you know?
27th of September AD 11.
Well, you'd better come up with some questions. I'll count to ten. One, two
- yes.
Male voice: Would you say a little bit about how obsessive individuation
makes the person eventually become the thing they're individuating from.
Will I say a little bit about how obsessive individuation makes a person
eventually become the thing he is individuating from.
Male voice: Please.
Right. All right. It's a very simple mechanism. An overt act is an effort
to individuate. It is a withhold of oneself from. And if you get an idea,
let's say, of - well, let's see: Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby - this is a
pretty good example.
If you had a huge lump of tar and you didn't want to be part of this piece
of tar, so you didn't permit yourself to come near the tar, every time you
came close to this lump of tar, you say, "Well, no, I'm not going to become
that tar." You would eventually find yourself slightly misemotional about
this tar, because you're cutting communication with it. And you would try
to push yourself off from this piece of tar, because you would find
yourself drifting in toward the tar. You would one night go in the room and
it's dark and you accidentally touch the tar and this is a counter of one
of your postulates, you see. And so you push yourself off and away from the
tar and the more you push yourself off and away from the tar, of course,
the more tarry you get. And eventually you get into a state of affairs
where you were tar. Just all from a forceful effort to hold yourself off
from the tar.
Well, of course, this only starts to happen after one begins to use effort
to withhold oneself from the tar. You get the idea?
Now, the way this works in the field of the mind is this way. There is a
thorn tree. And let's take a denizen of Arizona. The denizens of Arizona
have rather uniformly done this. Cactus. And they are rushing around out in
the desert avoiding cactus. And they avoid cactus and they avoid cactus and
they avoid cactus and they avoid cactus. And they sort of push against the
cactus, you know. Every time they come near cactus, they sort of push
themselves off
from the cactus. They have some very interesting cactus out there.
Some of it is. . . Actually, I had it confused for the moment - the most
interesting thorn bush I ever ran into or the most interesting piece of
shrubbery was spare-a-momento bush, which is the "wait-a-minute bush" of
the tropics, which has its thorns growing wrong way to, like fishhooks.
It's a wait-a-minute bush, all right.
Well, their rivalous piece of vegetation is a particular type of cactus
which has very yellow spines in a bunched group. And these spines are quite
invisible in their last inch or two, so that it actually makes one feel
that the cactus has leaped at him.
In other words, you can touch the cactus without being aware of the fact
that you're that close to the cactus because the outer spines of these
bundles of spines are invisible. And it - people all there, all claim - all
the Arizonans claim that this cactus jumps at you. And I've forgotten the
name they call it by, but it's a - a very annoying cactus.
I remember one time I was pulling cactus out of Mary Sue's ankle after a
motorcycle ride and - with a pair of pliers and so on. And what made it
most interesting is the fact that I tried to get the cactus spines out
originally with my motorcycle gloves. And of course it just saturated my
motorcycle gloves and I couldn't wear those and so I got cactus in me and
we just had more cactus all over the place than you could well appreciate.
Went straight through her boots.
Well, Arizonans with experiences of this particular character, eventually
begin to avoid this cactus very carefully. At all times they avoid this
cactus and they're all convinced that it leaps at you, which it doesn't. So
anyway, imagine living in a country always avoiding this cactus.
Now, what does the thetan do every time he sees this cactus? He takes a
picture of the cactus. He resists the cactus, which makes an energy picture
of cactus. Right? So that far from avoiding cactus, he is actually
duplicating the cactus in his bank obsessively. So the more he pushes back
against the cactus, of course the more pictures he gets of the cactus.
Well, eventually he finds out that his bank is prickly. He doesn't like his
bank. He gets a few traumatic experiences with the cactus and of course
this sort of submerges and the engrams all get tangled up and that makes a
chain out of these pictures of cactus. And one fine day he's being awfully
pointed to people. Don't push too close on some native Arizonans because
they're very cactusized. They're highly individuated and so on.
It's interesting how unfriendly a can't-have land actually is. You're
walking out through the vast reaches of desert: there's no food, there's no
water and that sort of thing - he's very unfriendly. And eventually the
denizens of the country will become very unfriendly and everybody's having
a beautiful can't-have run on him.
But there is an example of pushing against the cactus and of course every
time you push against something, you get a picture of it. And you must
avoid the cactus. You just must not. Well, of course, you can't see the
pictures you're making of the cactus, so they don't as-is. That's an
important point, because we must avoid the cactus. We are taking pictures
of the cactus and therefore we never as-is the pictures of the cactus,
don't you see.
And eventually it's these pictures which cause one to feel that a closure
has taken place. Actually, it is not directly true that a person avoids the
cactus and then snaps into the cactus. You see, that's a simple look, but
it is not a correct one. Actually, by avoiding, he takes pictures then
which he doesn't as-is and these pictures not being as-ised can become
quite dominant and after a while he thinks of himself as cactus. All
because he tried to avoid cactus.
Now, he has already said - let's go back one step earlier. He's had - he's
already had to say that "cactus can overwhelm me." He's had to make that
postulate. And that is the initial postulate. And in all valence
difficulties, this is the initial postulate: "Cactus can overwhelm. That
can overwhelm me." And when a person has made this determinism, of course,
he has started on the road of a valence closure. "That can overwhelm me."
And that's the way that goes. Now, do you see how that mechanism is? It's a
- it's a relatively easy mechanism.
When you're taking it apart as an auditor, what are you doing? You are
trying to make somebody confront things. They then start confronting the
things they haven't confronted in the bank and then the next thing you
know, it turns up that they have a number of overts. Well, they are being
this thing, so of course they haven't any overts against it. And therefore
they're totally irresponsible for anything they've ever done to it, because
they aren't doing anything to it. They are it.
And the first thing they would tell you is that they've never done anything
to it and you'll get a null reading on the E-Meter, with regard to
questions - regard to it. But as you go along and in general processing,
the person begins to confront more and more of the pictures of his bank and
we phrase it as "his responsibility rises.
Actually, it's not even as complicated as that. It's just the fact that
he's now confronted enough of his bank to individuate slightly from his
pictures. And the moment he does that the string of overts which he did
against the objects appear. And so your Security Check begins to work. And
this is why a Security Check is an excellent index as to whether or not
your processing is getting anywhere. Because if a Security Check works
during the third intensive and it didn't work during the first intensive -
some question of it - it is only that during the intervening time you have
caused somebody to confront bank.
Now, if you've caused him to confront bank, then, naturally your Security
Checks will work later on things they wouldn't work on earlier. But if the
pc is totally irresponsible on the third intensive on the same things that
he was irresponsible for on the first intensive, then we are making no
progress at all. He is stuck totally in the valences that he was stuck in
at the beginning of the intensives.
So your Security Check gives us a wonderful index. If more withholds don't
appear - constantly and continually during processing on things that were
clean before - then the person is not getting out of any valences and he is
not confronting his bank better. Processing is not working if new withholds
don't turn up on Security Checks you have made null.
Give you an example: We give Sec Check Form 3 and we get all the way
through it and everything is just fine and we say, "Well, that's
wonderful," and we clean this all up now and - wrong adjudication: "Well,
we won't have to do a Form 3 again." That's a totally wrong adjudication.
We give the pc twenty-five hours of - particularly something like Routine
3, which is straight at valences and at the end of those twenty-five hours
we could go into Form 3 again. You understand, we got Form 3 all clean
before these twenty-five hours were given. Now we give him twenty-five
hours of Routine 3 processing and now we give another Form 3.
And if we don't get a whole bunch of new withholds, our processing during
that twenty-five hours might as well have been garbage-canned. It was
non-functional processing. Do you see why this mechanism is? The mechanism
is actually a simple one. It's that an individual is not responsible for
the things that have totally overwhelmed him, because it's responsible for
having overwhelmed him, don't you see?
So he is being these things, so therefore he doesn't have any Security
Check reaction to them because he is them. You're talking to a cactus, so
therefore he hasn't any overts against cactus. He just is a cactus, that's
all.
Now, as you processed him, all of his times of resisting cactus, have come
up little by little or this way or that, until you have a confront going.
And you have a little as-is going of some of these pictures and of course
this has shifted him from being cactus to somebody who has overts against
cactus. So a Security Check on the subject of cactus would not work.
There's two tests of rightness that are invariable tests and are very
wonderful ones and that's new withholds on the same Security Check that was
null is the best representation of case advance there is. That is better
than profiles. It's better than IQ tests. It's better than anything else.
It's a direct representation. Security Check was null. You processed him.
It is not now null.
That one and the other mechanism is the Prehav. These are the two most
important mechanisms in Scientology. If you have the right goal and
terminal and you have made an assessment on the Prehav Scale, less levels
will be alive on subsequent assessments - on the Prehav Scale - if the
terminal is right.
If the terminal is wrong, increasing numbers of levels will be alive at
each successive assessment on the Prehav Scale. Those are very interesting
things. And those are two things which you should know and have a good
reality on. You need to observe those things when you see them and get a
good grip on them because it tells you at once "Claw off to windward, man.
This boy has not got the right terminal." And it is utterly dynamite to run
the wrong terminal. Complete dynamite. It just must not be done.
If you've got the wrong terminal, the first time you assess the terminal on
the Prehav Scale to get a run, you had 5 levels live and you found 1 level
and then you ran it. And you ran it (quote) flat (unquote). And then you
assess him again on the Prehav Scale and you have 12 levels alive - oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, you have the wrong terminal on the pc. There's just no
arguing with it.
And you should go back and check it all over again. And then if you still
think you're right, so you run this new level that you found and then you
find 15 levels are now alive - well, don't commit suicide. We need
auditors. But it's almost that kind of a condition. That's really wrong.
The other one is, if you give a person a Security Check, ask him certain
security questions, audit him for a while and then fail to get new
withholds off the same questions, you're not advancing in processing,
because you're not splitting him out of any valence.
So those are the two most important tests. So thank you very much for
asking that question.
Male voice: Right.
That answered?
Male voice: Yes, I've got it. Thank you.
Good. All right. Any other question?
Male voice: Yes. A preclear can have one goal and then you find one
terminal. And after you've run that terminal on all the levels that will
fall, you may look for a new terminal. Correct? And you may find a new
terminal and run it again.
You lost someplace. This is not routine. This is wildly off. You're asking
me to do a whole recapitulation of Routine 3. Now, let me see this. And I
won't scold you for asking a question. I'm glad you did. Instructor, take
note. Bulletin checks are in order. Because this is a very clean, clear
activity. Very clean. You get one goal. The pc only has one goal. You get
one terminal off of that goal. You run that until it is completely flat on
all levels of the Prehav Scale and when that is completely flat and you get
no more reaction on it, you check, make sure your rudiments are all in,
completely and then you check the goal and check the terminal, once more,
before you leave any terminal.
Now, having established for once and for all that you have actually
flattened that terminal, you try to find if there are any more terminals
for that goal. Now, only then, would you depart from the first terminal.
Only if there were more terminals for that goal.
Now, if there were, you would assess them and run them. The same way -
Assessment by Elimination - but you've actually started Routine 3 all over
again.
Male voice: Yes.
Person accidentally has the first goal is still alive - he's got another
terminal for that goal. Now, once more, we do Routine 3 all over again. We
just keep doing Routine 3 all over again. But, the way you phrased it there
and what I heard or what I seem to hear, was off-line, in that running a
number of levels, you then find a new terminal. No. No, that does not
determine anything about it at all. What is determined here very cleanly
and clearly is the fact that you've run that terminal utterly, absolutely
flat on the case. And then go back and do Routine 3 again.
If the goal that he had before is still alive, you assess for a new
terminal. But remember, you are only doing Routine 3 over and over and
over. And there is no shift from Routine 3. It is the same action every
time. You always do the same action. It is invariable.
Male voice: Thank you. I get more clear now. Ah - so it is likely that he
may have more than one terminals for that goal. And would it be likely that
he would have more than one goals.
Well, if you get that goal gone, yes, he's going to have other goals. But
it's - he's never going to have more than one goal that you can find.
You're never going to find more than one goal on him. You're never gonna
find a pc with two goals. And you're never going to find a pc with no
goals.
Male voice: Yes. And after the goal that has a...
And if you've got the goal, you're never going to find more than one
terminal. You'll never find no terminals and you'll never find two
terminals. You'll always find one terminal. This is an oddity. There is
only one level of the Prehav Scale, never two levels. Never no levels,
unless the terminal is flat. It's always one, one, one.
There's a reason for that, is this is a two-pole universe. And the only way
a thetan can get into trouble is go one pole. So you found the one-pole
track. And it's one goal, which is utterly foreign to this universe, so
therefore hangs; one terminal, which is utterly foreign to this universe
and therefore hangs; one level of thought on this subject, foreign to this
universe and therefore hangs.
But once having done this whole action of finding the goal, finding the
terminal, finding the level and then running that level flat and then
finding another level and running it flat and finding another level and
running it flat and make sure after you have a flat level - only after a
level is flat - find some pictures the person has had. Run those things as
engrams. Get that two or three engrams out of the road, find a new level,
run that. You keep doing this and eventually that goal will no longer
produce any reaction of any kind no matter how well the rudiments are in or
anything else.
Now, you can just scrub any complications, because all you do is Routine 3
again. It just so happens that that goal is still alive. Well, therefore,
you'll find another terminal now that'll fit that goal. And you'll find a
new level and you assess that level and you run that level and you just go
through the whole action again. So it's actually - you can't say, you can't
say that you run a terminal flat and then go back and find another terminal
and run it flat, because if you looked at it in this way, this is very
unneat. It looks complicated and it looks like there is more than one
Routine 3 and it looks like he might get hung up. No, this thing is much
more simple than that. Routine 3 is just Routine 3.
When you have flattened a terminal utterly on the Prehav Scale, all levels,
you do Routine 3 again. It's as simple as that, you see. And of course, you
take a Goals Assessment and naturally if the goal is still alive and it's -
and there's another terminal to be run on that particular goal now,
naturally, that goal is going to show up again. But there's no reason to be
complicated about it because you might as well say, "Well, we scrubbed that
terminal. Now we're going to go back and do Routine 3 all over again." And
just do Routine 3.
And all you have to learn how to do is do Routine 3. And you can learn how
to do that well and just do it repetitively over and over and over. And the
case will go Clear. That is all you have to know. And also that there is
only one goal and at any one time there is only one terminal will show up
and there's only one level on the Prehav Scale. Also, there's only one
engram in the chain that, actually, the pc is hung up in, that can be run
at a time. He never has two engrams in restimulation. You'll only get one
to react on the meter. This is the most one-one-one-one affair you ever
heard of, you see. It's one goal, one terminal, one level, one engram. And
it's quite remarkable.
And once you've gotten Routine 3 done with, you've said that's it, you go
back - with a terminal, you see; you can't find any more live levels on the
Prehav Scale - you just go back and do Routine 3 all over again. And of
course, if the same goal is alive, you're going to get the same goal. But
nevertheless, it's still there.
Now what goals list do you use to get the second terminal? You use his
first goals list. Use the first goals list you ever saw. Therefore, the
papers on a person who is being run on Routine 3 assume considerable
importance, not for the record and not for my research files or something
like that. No, they're of great importance to the auditor and great
importance to the pc. And therefore the records of Goals Assessments and so
on must be carefully preserved.
There's another reason for this. Is once a case is stalled some - because
somebody has done something weird, you've got to have his auditing records
available, in order to track back and find out what he was run on before.
Because the cure for all this is, oddly enough, to go back and do what was
not done.
And you go back and find the first undone do and do it. And it's always
invariable, the same thing. If you've missed the fellow's goal entirely,
you always return to the first list. Don't go on with these interminable
lists, see; it - go onto the first list. Therefore, that list must be
preserved.
If you've missed his terminal and after you've gotten up to five, six,
seven hundred terminals and you still are getting no place, well, you'd
better decide that you are driving a tricycle all over the wide plains,
because that terminal is right back in the first group. But the rudiments
or something or something about the case or something like this or some
withholds or some suppressions, have knocked it out. And you put this all
in order and then you go back to the first list of terminals.
And if you're putting somebody to rights who has been misrun and you can't
find a Prehav level live, then the thing for you to do, if you get the
rudiments in and you still can't find a Prehav level alive, then you had
better go back and check and find out if there was any level left unflat at
any time. And get the first level that was left unflat and flatten it. And
all of a sudden the whole Prehav Scale will go alive again.
So you always go back and do what was left undone. And you always cover the
same records. And it's one of these interesting, circular activities. And
the person is Clear when you can no longer can do any of them. You can't
get the rudiments in because they're in. You can't get any goal because he
hasn't got any stuck goals. You can't get any terminals because they don't
exist. And you can't get any levels on the Prehav Scale because there
aren't any. And you can't run any engrams because they're blown. And of
course, at this interesting state of affairs, you have, fortunately,
another indicator, so that you don't just have somebody who is ARC broke
and so isn't registering on the meter, you see. You've got another state of
affairs and that state of affairs is a floating needle. The E-Meter is
unreadable. The E-Meter is useless. And the E-Meter becomes a completely
useless instrument.
When Routine 3 becomes completely useless and won't work, when the E-Meter
is completely useless and won't work and when the pc will sit down and go
through any endless number of doodle-daddles and whatamagoodjits and
processes and - you just go ahead; if you want to audit it, that's all
right. In other words, not even bad auditing works, why, he's Clear. And
that's, that's - if you want your final test for Clear, that would be it.
The final test for Clear is that you can't run Routine 3 on him anymore
because the pc works but the meter doesn't work. Pc, by the way, will go on
being audited, which is quite interesting. They don't do a big blow and
say, "I'm too busy and I'm really Clear and I want to get things done."
They will go on being audited. You make an auditing appointment - you want
to audit him and so forth. They'll be audited. And it leaves a very upset
auditor very often.
Well, he does manage to find an engram. He does. He manages to find one
that wasn't run. And there it is and so forth. And he's got it and it
reacted on the meter. And the meter stopped floating. Damn it! And it
stopped floating. And he actually got a reaction and it fell and so forth.
So he rolls up his sleeves and he gets all set to run it and it's not there
anymore.
And so he decides the pc must have escaped. And so he goes over the track
carefully and he runs the Attack and Escape Process in order to get the pc
back into the incident. And the incident is there; it must be there and -
but it isn't there. And you can't get any reaction on the E-Meter. It's a
very disappointing activity.
Heartbreaking. More auditors have been upset by trying to run Routine 3 on
a Clear than any other single action. It's very upsetting. And they start
blowing engrams by inspection and this is fantastic. When everybody knows
that they ought to be 75 hours on the engram, you see, and they blow it by
inspection.
So when you run into that sort of thing, you've got that. But don't make an
error into the fact that Routine 3 is complicated. It is not. It is a very
simple action. But therefore, because it is a simple action, it requires
superlatively well trained auditors to follow it through. Okay? Yes.
Male voice: Thank you. How long would it take - time?
Hm? How long would it take to what?
Male voice: How long would it take uh - how long would be the maximum time
allowed to run the first level off?
Aw, you can't even guess. They'd vary, vary, vary. I'll tell you how long -
how long the last Clear took. Audited by a Clear. A Clear audited a person
to Clear in 118 hours. That was the last Clear that was made just a week or
so ago. Last week, I think, in Australia. Just checked out by HCO and the
whole auditing time was 118 hours. That is a Clear auditing. So.
Female voice: But Ron, what about the one that was produced in fifty hours?
In Mauritius.
Fifty? Oh, well, yes. I've just given you a time. I'm just giving you the
time of the last Clear. There's no other complications in what I'm saying.
Male voice: What I really meant was the first level..
Oh no, you want to know how the first level... Well, if I could tell you
that it took 18 hours, 17 minutes and 63 seconds, I would first have to
predict how many boo-boos you're gonna make, how far your rudiments are
going to be out on the pc, how much trouble the pc is going to be in in
life, what the pc's actual case state was, how difficult a terminal it was
and how muggy a goal. Now, when we've got all those things settled in, we
could estimate this. It would just take anything that you can guess. Just
think of a figure.
Male voice: Now, let's say if I knew that on the worst case if I have more
than fifty hours, that would be bad auditing on my part. I would have a...
No, no. I wouldn't want to go that far. Nope.
Female voice: It takes as long as it takes.
Will you take - will you take this as an example and as an answer? Just
think of a figure. Right now. Think of a figure.
Male voice: Fifty hours.
All right. That's how long it takes. All right. Okay. Got it? I mean, it's
just anybody's guess. All right.
Another male voice: What are the indications that a pc is ready for Routine
3?
What are the indications that a pc is ready for Routine 3. Will he sit in
the auditing chair and answer your questions coherently?
Audience member: Any pc then. Anyone who...
Any pc, any pc if he'll sit in the auditing chair and give you some
coherent response to questions can be run on Routine 3.
Audience member: Thank you.
Any coherent response. Now that word coherent will be susceptible to
numerous interpretations. And I had better define that word for you a
little more closely. Intelligible answer.
You say to the pc, "How are you today?"
And he thinks for a little while and he says, "Well, I'm not so good."
That is a coherent response to your question.
You say to the pc, "How are you today?"
And he looks at you and he says, "Well, I don't know. Aunt Mamie is pretty
good."
Now we're getting a questionable coherence, but nevertheless is in the zone
of coherence. Now we say to the pc, "How are you today?"
And the pc says, "Cars should eat crackers."
This is not a level of coherence. We say to the pc, "How are you today?"
And the pc says, "Uh - I'm not going to talk to you because I am mad at
you." That is a level of coherence. That is a level of coherence. He's
still talking to you and it is in response to the fact that he's being
addressed. That is a level of coherence. You say to the pc, "How are you
today?"
And he says, "Gooba, gooba, gooba, uba-uba."
Well you probably aren't talking his language, so that isn't a level of
coherence. In other words, the thing is susceptible to numerous
interpretations. But it merely means that even with a little struggle you
can get the pc to concentrate on what you're doing and respond to some
degree on what you want him to say. When you ask him for a goal, why,
although he might occasionally wander off and comm lag and so forth, he
will give you a goal. That much response is all the response you need to
run Routine 3. And it doesn't matter what his sanity is or what his profile
is or his graph or anything else. You could probably find many, many people
- probably the preponderance of people inn an insane asylum could be run on
this. Okay?
Male voice: Thank you.
Right. All right. Yes.
Another male voice: Could you tell us something about the difference in
what the Clears are today, whether they're Theta Clear or MEST Clear?
You are dealing with MEST Clears entirely, with a very upgraded definition
of MEST Clear. A Theta Clear is a very finite definition and a very
clean-cut definition. It is a person who operates exterior to a body,
without need of a body. Now, you see, you're not making that type of Clear.
It is an upgrade from this. Actually, a Theta Clear is cleared on all
dynamics, including the fourth. All dynamics.
He is simply cleared on these dynamics. He therefore, does not have a
tremendous dependency on a body and that is it. Now we have upgraded the
definition of MEST Clear because it is the first stable state. We have got
a state of stability for this particular state and this is a state of
stability, so, just make it what it is. It is a MEST Clear, but MEST Clear
before had a much lower requirement. It was a person who was not troubled
by a bank particularly.
Now, today you're not doing that. Actually, a MEST Clear is inoperative on
a meter. A meter merely floats. A MEST Clear totally stabilized - takes
them some months to even out. They will run into things. Life itself is a
sort of a confusion. And they've got the confusion of life stabilized and
that sort of thing. They are, however, operating as a person and they are
operating as a member of the human race and so forth; so could not be
considered to be a Theta Clear.
Now, the probability is that the borderline between a MEST Clear and a
Theta Clear is developed not on the button of can somebody operate exterior
to his body, but on the button is he anymore controlled by the symptoms of
hunger. Does he need food? Air? And these other things to survive? And it
is these buttons. Those buttons rather than some esoteric button of, could
he sit on a mountaintop and regard his navel with an x-ray eye. That would
establish this particular facet.
Now, you go up to the next grade. You go up to the grade of Operating
Thetan and you notice that the word Clear has not been used for that grade.
And there is no idea of Clear. You're talking about a different being
entirely.
And that state or status would be, therefore, one who didn't have a bank
that was troubling him (in other words, his reactive bank was not an
unknown series of factors to him), to one who was not influenced in favor
of one more than another of the dynamics and who did not experience need or
necessity for food, clothing, shelter and the rest of these things. Didn't
have to have a body and so forth.
Now, we go up to an entirely different aspect on the upgrade. And that is
somebody who can handle mest. He is not in a state where he could take it
or leave it alone. He is in the state where he could be quite aggressive
toward it or he could be quite manipulative of it.
Now you get the clever states of moving the ashtray, you know. This kind of
thing of - of starting the whirlwind. This is your trick - the trick level.
Oddly enough, some very aberrated thetans can on some very reactive system
or another of something terrifically emphasized produce poltergeist. And
some magician here or there in past times has been able to start a
whirlwind. And, well, for instance, you could probably - there's
undoubtedly somebody here, although you possibly haven't noticed it, who
could disintegrate a cloud by looking at it. And this odd trickeries - but
these things are too channeled and they're too fixed and the band isn't
broad.
An Operating Thetan, well, you could disperse a cloud and you could collect
one and then you could move one. And then you could precipitate one. Got
the idea? Then you could put it back the way it was in the first place. And
then make three clouds and make three pretzels and Ballantine's Beer and
hang it over the cloud.
You could do something weird. You could do something with mest. And the
best index of that, the best explanatory statement that could be made is
"Someone who has no consequences connected with creation." And when he's -
the person is totally recovered from all consequences of creation, you
could say, well, OT. That's about the only test there would be there.
And one of the tests would be, you'd have him mock up a whole bunch of
things and see if he's spun in. I mean that's - that'd be the crudest level
of testing we would have right at the present moment, you know. And it's a
great liability having OTs around. It's a very great liability. It must be
because the state has been fought tooth and toenail by practically every
society that has ever been formed.
And right now the one thing to which the Roman Catholic Church owes a
tremendous success line, is the fact they promised everybody to get rid of
all of the spirits in their vicinity. And whether these spirits were good,
bad or indifferent, they never bothered to inquire, but they promised
everybody they were going to get rid of all the spirits and save their
souls. Well, we don't know what that was all about. But it was apparently a
lot of people were afraid of this particular state because they made a lot
of smoke about it.
But of course, the people around who were in that state at that time were
in such a limited state, it was something like, well, being able to
dissolve a cloud today. They couldn't do very much. That, and they were
possibly sufficiently irresponsible, though, that they were dangerous
members of society. Who knows?
It was three states with which you're dealing - you're dealing with the
fourth state. And this fourth state is Release. When you have found
somebody's goal and terminal and level and when you have really nicely
completed a Security Check, you will find that you have made a tremendous
difference in this particular person.
And if you have at the same time - let's expand the definition a little bit
- eradicated his present time problems off long duration, let me assure you
you have something which is so superior to anything you had before that you
certainly had better designate it as something, so you designate it as a
Release. The basic definition of Release is somebody who doesn't think he's
going to keep going downhill. That's all. He doesn't think he's going to
get worse. He thinks he's going to get better. He knows now he's going to
get better. He's got a certainty on the fact that he's on the road out.
That is a Release.
It's the same state of mind that you've opened this jail door and they can
look down the road and there are no soldiers with pikes and nobody in the
watchtowers with Sten guns and there's no booby traps or mines on the
highway and they all think there is at first and they inspect these things
very carefully. If you were to suddenly go to Wormwood Scrubs or something
and suddenly throw open the gates and say, "Well, all right, boys." You'd
find there are tremendous numbers of them that wouldn't even go near the
gate or inspect it.
You'd say, "Well, there are no guards out here. There's nobody in the
watch-towers anymore and there's nothing on the road, and you can just
leave. Go ahead. The gates are wide open" and turn your back. You'd come
back in some hours to inspect it. You would find a very interesting state
of affairs. You'd find that some of them had not left at all and were not
about to leave. They knew they had been fooled. This would be their first
mental reaction. "If anybody tells you anything like that, this must be
total foolery." "Uh - and it's just a new - a new technique of betrayal" -
that's their big certainty. And they're still cowering back in their cells,
sitting apathetic about it all and so on.
Another group you would find milling around the courtyard trying to get
nerve enough up to look to see if the guards were still on both sides of
the gate. They would just be trying to get up their nerve.
There'd be another group out in the courtyard satisfied that there were no
guards at the gate but recognizing that the ne plus ultra would be to take
the guards off the gate and then have machine guns in the towers, you see.
And as soon as you got outside, you would probably get it in the back. And
they're satisfied that they're free for the courtyard, but they are pretty
sure that they had better not go down the road.
And then you'll find another group who are outside, dodging down the road
but jumping back of bushes and jumping in and out of ditches and
progressing in short bursts, you see, from cover to cover. And then way
down the road someplace you'd find a group of guys walking along saying,
"Wasn't that nice of somebody to open the gates?"
And these - these various states are reflected, of course, in the attitudes
of pcs. And when they've gotten over the idea that - this is the principal
idea they'd have to get over - is that this freedom is a new betrayal.
That's the principal idea that a Release would have to get over.
If he got the - if he still had the idea that this offered freedom was just
a new betrayal, you couldn't say he was a Release because he's never going
to walk past the front gates or the watchtowers. So he has to be over that
particular state of mind. And you could counter-phrase it and say, "Well,
he knows he isn't going to get worse," and so forth, but he knows he is on
the road out and up. And he knows that he isn't going to get tripped down
and thrown to the wolves again.
Now, he knows this, so just knowing that actually produces an enormous
difference of case level. And it isn't something that collapses. It's a
fairly stable case level.
So those are the four states you are operating with, right at the present
moment. Of course, that first state is terribly easy to attain and one of
the best ways to attain it is by Security Checks oddly enough.
But a Security Check just rendered endlessly on somebody may take quite
awhile. You find his goal, you find his terminal; he gets a greater reality
on himself and now he understands a lot of things that he did and you
complete a good Security Check on him and he gets off all of his pretense
and feeling of fraudulences about himself and odd doubts and that sort of
thing. You've made an enormous difference in a person. The person now looks
factual to others. He has a level of reality which is very good and so
forth, so it's dignified by this term Release.
Although of course, being the lowest of the states on the road up - not the
lowest of states but for the lowest of states on the road up - it of course
is a far more complicated state and far more difficult to establish than
the upper three states. These are very easy - much easier to establish.
Probably the easiest state in the world to establish right now is the state
of Clear. Anybody could check for Clear. Anybody could check for it. If he
could operate a meter, he can check a Clear. I mean, it's as easy as that
because the meter's inoperative. The person isn't hanging at 2.0 or 3.0 on
the apathetic underbeat with a stuck needle, you see, because the meter's
still operative. You can still make that meter operate, but you got a
floating needle that's drifting around and it floats and you ask the person
various questions and you don't get any responses and so forth. That's a
Clear test. That straighten out these states for you, Arthur?
Male voice: Thanks so much.
You bet. All right. Yes, Bonnie.
Female voice: Two questions, Ron. One...
Only one at a time.
Female voice: Where would you read...
I'm in this universe, huh?
Female voice: All right. Where would you read a Release on the meter?
Where would you read a Release on the meter? Oh, well, that's very
difficult to say. I can tell you where he wouldn't be.
Audience voice: Not at Clear.
Now, that's - no, no, no. I can tell you where he wouldn't be. And this is
the only thing you've got to be careful of, in checking out a Release. And
you'd better be careful of this because lots of auditors have been fooled
in the last decade by this one.
He sits at the Clear read for his body and he's a dead body. He's totally
irresponsible. He gets no fast needle reactions. The needle is pretty
sticky. And to get any response at all, you have to advance the
sensitivity, but the tone arm does locate him at his Clear read.
Of - that is the lower harmonic of Clear. And it is total apathy. It is
total irresponsibility. And it's a giddy-giddy, whee, "All us people in
seventh heaven" - some kind of a weird state.
And every now and then some auditor has enthusiastically offered one of
these people up as Clear. And he hasn't noticed, you see - he hasn't
noticed any time he was auditing - the person never has had a response on
the meter. The person never has been able to go all the way through a
Security Check, merely because the person hasn't any withholds. Nothing is
a withhold. He has no responsibility for anything, so of course nothing is
a withhold. You get the idea. Nothing. You never get a single reaction on
the needle when you're asking him about anything. And to get any kind of a
reading you have to have your sensitivity very well advanced and it is very
far from a floating needle. And anybody who knows E-Meters could look at
this particular case at once and say, "Clear? Near beer, man. That's
nowhere."
Yet that has fooled people. And people have even occasionally been checked
out as Clear, who were in total apathy, whose chronic somatics were in full
scream, who - just a complete flub.
Now, this is - this is interesting because it means that you have to know
what is a floating needle. And it is quite distinctly different from this
other phenomena. The other phenomena is very distinctive.
But I was fooled one time by this other phenomena. I had a newspaper
reporter who was doing some press work for an organization here. And he was
one of these cases. And only when I suddenly realized the man couldn't
work, couldn't think, didn't think it was possible to get any press or
publicity, was totally negative along all these lines, I took another look
at the situation and sure enough, he was one of these spook cases.
He sat directly on 3.0. He didn't respond in any particular direction to
anything, but his needle was stuck - couldn't get any response to what it
was. And what it turned up - the clue was - that he couldn't run Help. That
was the clue. He couldn't run Help and he couldn't run Control. See, he
couldn't answer a positive question. He couldn't make a decision. He just
was a dead body. He was a dead-thetan case. And he had no initiative; he
couldn't work. He was in horrible condition.
But nevertheless, at first glance on a meter, you see, you say, "Well, the
man is reading.. ." This was many years ago, by the way, when we didn't
know very much about this. And he was just sitting at this Clear read and
apparently wasn't too stuck up and so forth. And I just happened to notice
this in passing and then later on noticed his behavior on post. And it was
fantastic. Complete irresponsibility. He just could not get anything done
in any direction. He could not work. He could not think. He couldn't make a
decision. He thought everything was impossible. And another thing he
thought was everything was a fraud and everything was going to betray him
and he was really betraying everybody. And, oh, it was the wildest package.
Well, I was inter - got interested in the package because that was the
first one I ever saw that was a perfect dead thetan. He was a perfect dead
thetan. He really thought of himself as having died a long time ago and
hadn't been alive ever since.
All right. Now, there's your - there is, in essence the behavior of that.
Female voice: But how would you recognize a Release on the meter?
Well, the Release has no action on the meter, but he doesn't have that one.
You see, he doesn't have that one, but neither does he have any other. A
person actually could, possibly, theoretically be stuck in 7.0 on your dial
and still be considered a Release. I mean, you cannot lay down now
something like this because a person in processing from day to day if you
will notice, if his case is making any progress, he's liable to be reading
these days at 1.0 or 6.0 or almost anything. A Release is not necessarily
not on a Clear read and a Release is not necessarily high. A Release is
necessarily, however, not one of these dead-thetan cases and he, of course,
is not reading with a floating needle. If he were reading with a floating
needle, he would be Clear. So it's not determinate. It's not determinate.
You'll. .
Female voice: How would you recognize him, then?
Hm?
Female voice: You'd recognize him by his case not worsening.
No, I'll go over this again. His characteristics are very finite and very
easily established. If you call these characteristics that of Release, you
will be absolutely certain not to make any mistakes. You don't want
somebody who is going to be a disgrace to you. So he's got to know he's on
the road out. He's got to know he's been helped. And he's got to know that
he isn't being betrayed. And so if you lay down these characteristics, you
will have such a person. (1) You have found his goal. (2) You have found
his terminal. This will make an enormous difference with a case. And (3)
has successfully gotten through a Form 3 Security Check and has it all
clean for this particular level. Now, if those things have occurred, the
chances of this person now being in a state of fraudulence, betrayal,
upset, superchronic somatics, no road out, it's all blocked, you're gypping
me, tremendous numbers of present time problems, skidding all over the
place - these things are relatively well ruled out by these conditions.
Now, if you wanted to add another one to it to be absolutely sure, you
would say that you have handled his problems of long duration - which is
his chronic somatics have been handled. Now, that for sure would be a
Release.
Now, if you've put these things together, you could, if a person had met
all those characteristics, it would be the safest thing in the world, the
safest thing in the world to say, well, he is a Release because he is a
stable case at this point and he is not going to cave in again.
Female voice: Thank you.
You betcha. All right. Now what was the other question?
Female voice: How would you audit a MEST Clear to OT?
How would you audit a MEST Clear to OT? Well, that's very good. That's very
fine. Now you are dealing with unknown data. You are dealing with a vast
number of processes which have been turned out. And nearly all of these
processes have - were covered over the years. And they are totally out of
reach, but it'd be something on the order of he could do any process in
Scientology.
I released some from South Africa called Ultimate Processes. Now, if a
fellow could do those Ultimate Processes and they were all flat, given the
fact he was Clear in the first place and he could do all those processes,
why, you would find that was fine.
But of course, you're - you've taken a double jump here. You want to know
how to audit a person from Clear to Operating Thetan. Is that right?
Audience member: That's right.
All right. Now, Operating Thetan and Clear are not next to each other.
There is Clear and then there is Theta Clear. And you would be operating
him from Theta Clear to Operating Thetan or you would be operating him from
Clear to Theta Clear.
Now, taking him from Theta Clear to Operating Thetan is relatively easy,
because you have the old book Creation of Human Ability. Now, you'll find
all those processes in there are applicable. You'll find the Ultimate
Processes which I released last fall in South Africa. Those are all
applicable. You have all of Creative Processing released in England in the
52, 53 - all of that is applicable. You'd find that we've already covered
the ground. It isn't an unknown zone at all. It's a zone that has been
developed.
Now, the other one - what you really ought to be asking about is - how do
you take a person from MEST Clear to Theta Clear. Now that is very
pertinent. And how you get him over that jump is under study right at this
moment and it's very difficult because you are totally inoperative. You're
not guided by any meter.
Female voice: What about the oscilloscope?
Well, that's all right, but we haven't made the total jump on there. We
merely have some clues. We kind of know where we're going. We're feeling
our way. The subject is one of these research projects of some magnitude.
The first goal along this line and the first big discovery along this line
occurred just forty-eight hours ago. I found out the common denominator of
all cases that have bodies. And it's not very startling since you could
have suspected it, but of course it'd be a violation of havingness in some
fashion or another, naturally. But their attitudes in - of havingness are
incorrect, incorrect to this state, is they hunger. They can starve. And
they have anxieties about procurement of food, air, heat and these other
factors.
And I finally isolated this thing to my own satisfaction only about
forty-eight hours ago. You clear a Clear of hunger. You see, he's already
Clear. But there he is in a body and he's eating and he's breathing and
he's still hanging around and he still considers himself exclusively a
member of the human race. He still swats flies with great enthusiasm. Get
the idea?
All right. How come all this? How come all this? Well, he is Clear on the
fourth dynamic. You'll find out you're going to have trouble, by the way,
from time to time, administrationally and politically in Scientology. It's
entering right now because just about the first place a person who is good
and Clear heads, is, of course, the fourth dynamic. And they get over this,
so suffer them - suffer along with them on it. It's - it's an almost - an
occupational illness of a Clear. The fourth dynamic. And they go intensely
onto the fourth dynamic, you see. Up to this time they'd been on third,
they'd been on second, they'd been on first and all of a sudden, bang! They
find themselves on the fourth.
Well, they're cleared on the first, second and third. And that fourth
dynamic - they suddenly wake up with a tremendous reality on the fourth
dynamic and they say, "There is mankind! Wow!" See?
Well, now this isn't the lower harmonic of let's all go to Trafalgar Square
and sit down. This is very overt. That is the lower harmonic of the same
phenomenon, you see. All things have their lower scale mockeries. This'll
make you feel funny more than once in your lifetimes. All things have their
lower scale mockeries.
All great dancers are now and then imitated by lousy dancers in burley-cue
shows, you know. I mean, it's lower scale mockeries - always occur. Just
like there's a lower scale mockery of Clear. A person sits on his Clear
read, is absolutely dead and completely useless, you see. A person says,
"Well, that's what a Clear is, I don't want to be one." Well, I don't blame
him, I don't want to be dead either, because it's so inactive. That's the
only thing wrong with being dead.
And so we look over the attributes of the Clear as he goes up the line and
we find out, crash! He discovers the fourth dynamic. Only, now the
aberration is not in his bank. The aberration is right out here right now.
And you take a bunch of people who aren't Clear and try to persuade them
up, that they ought to do something on the fourth dynamic and you lay
ostrich eggs, robin's eggs, very frail eggs, very tough eggs, but they're
all eggs. And you don't get - even get an omelet out of it because nobody
pays any attention to this at all.
But nevertheless a Clear has an ability to lead. You'll find most of them
are, well - are - they will lead. And they can infect people with
considerable enthusiasm along a - certain lines like the fourth dynamic and
that sort of thing. So you'll have here and there throughout Scientology, I
can absolutely assure you whether it's South Africa, Australia, the United
States and so on - South Africa has right now got one of these things going
- very laudable to its degree, but it's iimpractical to this extent: is the
Clear in this particular case is talking completely beyond the reality of
other people and they're not going to know what the hell this person's
talking about. That's all.
Now, the best way to do something for the fourth dynamic is, of course, get
people into the PE Course and have an HGC that clears people. Now if you
can get those two things, you're doing the most for the fourth dynamic that
you could possibly do. To do much more than that at this particular stage
of the game exceeds reality. You'll only cause a tremendous cross-commotion
of some kind or another and it'll only wind up in the soup.
But this particular aspect of the Clear is that he has found mankind. And
he has found them out here now. And he finds them a present time problem
now. It's not a case of his bank. It's not a case of the bank condition
whereby he has got to do something because it hurts him so on his little
toe every time he sees a woman, see. That's his motivation before that. His
motivation right now is this fourth dynamic as we look around this
particular, rather small planet on a twelfth-rate sun seems to be in one
God-awful mess and it seems to be causing it a number of problems. And
these are very observable to the Clear.
And it's - they enter into it in the same enthusiasm that you'll find in a
pc when you eventually uncover the problem he's really worrying about. Have
you ever had this happen with a pc? The pc's going on and on and on. He's
talking about nattering problems this way, nattering problems. And all of a
sudden he finds a problem he's really worrying about in life. He takes off
with enthusiasm. Well, that's it, you know. Bang!
Well, a Clear, casewise, does this. And sooner or later, you can expect
that phenomenon to occur. Well, of course they're on the road up and they
will eventually blow that and go on to the fifth and the seventh and the
eighth and come back to the sixth. And by the time they've got these more
or less whipped, you will find that they're upwards toward Theta Clear. And
then if they thought there was something to be done about mankind, they
would probably do something about mankind. For instance, I can tell you a
very practical way of stopping a war.
You mock up a small herald and he walks up the steps of the White House and
he's got a tabard on, you see. And of course, the G-men of course all shoot
him and the bullets go through him and don't make any impression which
upsets the G-men. And he goes on in and he pulls out - he blows a blast on
this trumpet and he pulls out this long scroll and he reads to the
president, "People of Earth, we come in peace. We bring a plowshare not a
sword," you see, that sort of thing. "And unless a conference is held
amongst all nations with - whereby they are sincerely going to operate
along peaceful lines," something like this, you see, "in a fortnight, why,
we're going to have to put the president and the other heads of nations
under close arrest." And then, of course, just disappears in a small cloud
of smoke. Now, that's very effective.
Of course, they don't do anything but natter for a fortnight. And then you
mock up some very tough space opera characters standing around the gates of
the White House, standing around the Kremlin, standing around here and
there, you see and so on. And they don't let anybody leave or enter.
This is upsetting because the G-men and the NKVD and other such nonsense
peoples can't shoot them, you see and it's all very upsetting. And so they
finally do hold a conference of some kind or another, you see and they come
to some agreement to scrap bombs or turn them into the running of merchant
ships or something else practical.
See, now there is a method of doing this, but you'll find somebody as he
goes up scale will collide with this as a solution. Actually, this is not
much of a solution. But it's a pretty good stopgap and it's much better
than going to Trafalgar Square and sitting down in the rain. Because the
pavement is so damp!
Ah, dear. These things, of course, are problems of politics, governments,
civilizations and a person starts colliding with these things. Then
eventually, as you go along, why, a lot of people are Clear, they'll
eventually realize "Mores? What mores? People aren't operating with any
mores. They're operating with a bunch of prejudices which they themselves
do while enforcing them on others and we don't have a civilization. We have
a games condition."
Well, they start straightening out this, you see and that keeps them busy
for quite a while. That's about the way it goes. You don't necessarily have
a quiet peace when you wind up, by the way. They eventually get up to the
point where they recognize the imposition of inaction on everybody is a
fine method of making everybody ill. All you've got to do is make everybody
be quiet enough and they all get sick.
You notice, the medical doctor is always making himself enormous future
fees. Always. He tells you - you must be quiet and you must go to bed for a
week or so and you must do this. He must - you must - you must be quiet -
that is the main thing. Whereas truthfully speaking, the best advice, as
you could get a good reality on, is tell somebody who is coughing and
wheezing and having a terrible time. You tell him, "Well, walk around the
block for an hour and note everything you see carefully." In other words,
get a little bit active. Get a little more active than they are. Now of
course, there's a finite point where this becomes impossible. And that is
when a person can't move his legs or his arms or his head, you tell him to
get up and walk around the block, you've given him a lose.
But I don't think at that stage you should tell him to be quiet. And the
medical doctor can never resist. You couldn't get him out of bed
practically with a derrick, you see. And the medical doctor can always be
counted on, in the patient's hearing, to tell somebody else particularly,
"Well, you have to keep him in bed for a few days." You know?
Can't you - don't you recognize this is a very familiar - has a familiar
ring to it? Well, they just never can resist telling everybody to be
inactive, which is a marvelous piece of nonsense because it's going to make
everybody sick, but of course that increases their fees. They're practical
men, at least. Even if rather shortsighted on the dynamics. I don't think a
medical doctor even gets to the first.
But your best system of doing anything for a society - the most practical
system of doing something for a society is rehabilitate knowingness. If you
rehabilitate knowingness and ability, people will work things out. If you
pull the rug out from underneath everybody and tell them to be utter slaves
and that sort of thing, you don't work things out. It becomes a no-solution
of magnitude.
Common solutions on the track which many of you have a reality on. You -
well, you do such things as set up a huge electronic computer that figures
out everybody's lives for them and they all go by the ticker tape. And go
in for their inoculations and truth serum or something like this. Or you
have a thought tower prominent in the middle of town. Everybody anytime
thinks a hostile thought, why, he immediately reports himself to the police
because he realizes it's been picked up by the thought tower and so on.
We're skating awfully close to that, you know, with Security Checks. And
the only thing that a Security Check has to excuse itself is that it makes
people free. And the thought tower mechanism never did anything but make
slaves because if somebody reported in that he's thought a hostile thought
against the administration, of course, they immediately put him in the
electric box and that was that.
Anyway, those are your various states. Well, I've over-answered the
question but given you some various views on things which you've probably
been thinking about. Whither are we drifting? I imagine a Scientologist
every once in a while looks up and says, "Whither are we drifting?" Well,
the only way I'd modify the statement is, should we ask, "Whither are we
gegangen at such a helluva rate of speed?" Because we're on our way. We're
not drifting anyplace.
Now, the basic modus operandi on which I operate politically or
administratively is that the only solutions are technological solutions
which restore comprehension and self-determinism. And those are valid
solutions because at the same time comprehension is restored, people can
understand what is going on. And when you reestablish self-determinism,
then you have made a person capable of responsibility for his own actions.
And you'll find out that when somebody is responsible for his actions
across a number of the dynamics, that he does not commit crimes. He is not
evil. And you don't necessarily put him into motionlessness, you see. And
so on.
And you'll find out the more people that can know the difference between
right and wrong, the more people who can understand, the more people who
can reach decisions, the more people who can act to straighten out any
given situation, the better things will be. That is all. It's a very simple
solution. It's too simple that one could very often be accused of some
subterfugenous, deviative, offbeat pitch of some kind or another. He could
be accused of all kinds of odd things. Because there is an old mystical law
though that a fellow has as much power as he can be trusted with. It's not
quite right. That's theosophy. There's normally a little pitch connected
with those things. The proper statement is "A person has as much power as
he will trust himself to have." That is the proper statement. That is the
real basic law of that. He will have as much power as he can trust himself
to have.
And when he can no longer entrust himself to have any power, he then starts
running on some kind of wild automaticity that has nothing to do with
self-trust or self-distrust or anything else. It's just - it's just motion.
And the more you have to do with criminals, the more this fact is impressed
on you that a criminal is not any longer dealing in right and wrong; a
criminal is simply dealing in forms of action and inaction insentient. A
criminal does not make sense. After he steals something, he never does
anything with it. He's quite amazing. But, of course, any confusion is
amazing.
He's as - he's like MEST, in that MEST turned loose on MEST simply collides
with MEST. You pour a bunch of liquids into the same bowl. There's no
decision on whether they associate or don't associate; they simply do. And
you separate them out in test tubes and there's no question on the subject
of - the MEST doesn't think that it's being separated out or not being
separated out. It simply separates out.
Any exterior force, any exterior stimuli brings about some type of
response. But response in the individual only occurs by reason of exterior
stimuli. And you have packaged the criminal in a very tight package right
there. All things occur by exterior stimuli. Only exterior stimuli is
responsible for anything.
You talk to him. He is the most amazing fellow. A confirmed criminal is the
most amazing fellow to talk to you ever heard of. Cawooo! He just leaves
you utterly baffled. The way to get unbaffled about it all is disabuse
yourself of the fact that you're talking to sentients. You're not talking
to anyone or anything that is sentient. You are talking about a mechanism
which activates on exterior stimuli. The bottle is on the counter and
because the bottle is on the counter, it makes him put it in his pocket.
Because the whisky is on the table, it makes him drink the whisky. You got
the idea?
See, he has nothing to do with anything that is going on anywhere. And if
you understand him at all, you had just better put it in the phraseology of
MEST. You don't think of an ashtray deciding whether or not it is going to
be moved. Well, don't think of a criminal as deciding whether or not he is
going to do a criminal act. There is no understanding there, so of course
it's incomprehensible. His actions are then incomprehensible. Well,
incomprehensible is because he has no understanding. It's as simple as
that.
Now, when you get a large section of the populace down to certain low
levels of irresponsibility and all things start operating on a
stimulus-response basis, there is no sentience left to furnish any
direction and there is nothing going to happen but indirection and
collision of some kind. There's nothing going to occur but confusion and
randomity. That is about all that occurs and you see a society which is
disintegrated. It has many interesting dramatizations and aspects and
oddball activities and mores and all these things and eventually they're
just merely a confusion. Because they're none of them sentient, none of
them directional and all of them occurring because of exterior stimuli.
Why did he kill the girl? He killed the girl because the room was hot.
You'll find out that's where it's gone and that's it. And of course, the
poor police, they sit around and they grant this fellow beingness, you
know. They're always granting the criminal beingness. And they're granting
the - he had some motive for killing the girl. They're - if they're any -
sure of anything, you see, they're hung with that security, see.
They think well, he had a motive for killing the girl. Why did he kill the
girl? You see? Well, they put him under the hot lights. "Why did you kill
this girl?" You see? And he says, "Well, the room was hot and that's why."
And they say, "Well, he won't answer the question," and question him for
another twenty-four hours, you see. And then decide that he's crazy and
then put him in a mental home where he stays for five days and is then
released. I mean, some weird things are going on in the society at this
time.
It's basically on the basis that the society is rigged for people to be
responsible in. And then you have vast numbers of people who are being
irresponsible in it, you see, so it becomes incomprehensible how it is
running. Somebody, Mr. Jubba-Jubba Pangawonga, is suddenly elected as
president of the Algerian secret consuls of the upper hinterland or
something, you see. Why, hell, he hasn't any responsibility for it. He has
no administrative training. He has nothing of the sort. He has no
tradition, no background of anything else but throwing spears at gazelles,
maybe.
And there he is. But everybody says, "Well, he is president of the upper
Abyssinian hinterland, so therefore he is a responsible authority. So
therefore, the things which he is doing, make sense." See?
You see? That's what doesn't make sense, is the assumption that what he's
doing makes sense. You see where it breaks down? The stupidity is
interjected by the interjecting of a pretended knowingness. It's a false
knowingness. They know he knows what he's doing.
But of course, this country might, two thousand, three thousand years ago,
when it had an administrative, political tradition, when things were
running in the country, when it was set up at one time - for instance,
Abyssinia was the conquering entity of Egypt and actually ran Egypt for God
knows how long, you see. They weren't always stupid. And there they are and
at that time, if you'd elected Mr. Jubba-Jubba Pongawonga as president of
the upper Abyssinian hinterland and so forth, you would have had an
administrator in the place and you wouldn't have had to ask all these odd
questions, you see.
But now the society decays, goes to pieces, is conquered by this one,
conquered by that one, overrun by somebody else, everybody carefully shoots
anybody in that society who has any political leanings. Naturally, if they
want to control the thing, they've got to kill everybody that has any
political leanings. And they gradually weeded out...
The Japanese in Formosa were quite interesting. They made everybody who had
any political aptitude or was demonstrating any, they made him into an
opium addict. What's more simple? That was their basic government policy in
Formosa. Well, all of a sudden, we tried to set up a government in Formosa.
Well, for Lord knows how many, many, many, many, many decades, you see,
they carefully made sure that there are no leaders and nobody to take
responsibility for Formosa. And all of a sudden the Japanese pull out and
we elect one of these people as in charge of Formosa. And their first
action - I think their first action - was to shoot fifteen thousand
students. That seemed to be a good political action. The proper action to
take. Well, the students were around and they had some banners and they
were in motion, so of course, you had to stop the motion and they did.
Total responsibility - the stimulus-response. You get the idea?
So you get any kind of a - if you want a chaos, all you have to do is
remove all responsibility from the chaos. And if you want to disestablish a
chaos, all you have to do is return responsibility into the area. And
that's it. Very simple. Except it's such a simplicity that it has
apparently escaped man for a very long time.
I didn't mean to get off onto a harangue like this, but whither are we
drifting, I think, probably should need a comment here and there.
You see, we might very well be part and parcel to the Fifth Invaders
conquering Earth, you see. We might be a secret adjunct of the space
command which is really interrupting everything. We might be this and we
might be that. There's every reason why we might well have been part of the
Marcab Confederacy, don't you see, as an extensional arm of invasion on
Earth. There's every reason. Because this is a timetable on which Earth is
operating right at the present moment.
But the truth of the matter is it's too simple to observe, you see. It
rather escapes the eye. We are just us. You see, that's the most we could
be - could be said about us because we are definitely more and more us. And
we are more us than any other us's.
On the simple rationale that the more effective we become individually,
why, the greater effectiveness we will have as a group and the greater
sentience and responsibility zones will occur and of course, we can't help
but win, because it's not very complex. And the complex structures break
down.
But every once in a while, somebody looks into Scientology for some vast,
complicated complexity of some kind or another. There's every reason in the
world why we might be one. But you just - it evades people's thirst for
complexity, you see, that we aren't. And what we're doing is very, very
simple.
It's just the more the individual is self-determined, the greater his zone
of influence, the greater capability there is there, the more potential
that is built up in that particular area and this is - I'm only talking now
third dynamic on Scientology. Why, naturally, you build up a tremendous
potential, there isn't anything that'd stand up to it. There's not much
doubt about that.
Reversewise, there is another one that goes on simultaneously and that is
the simple action of setting men free. And that's a perfectly simple,
laudable, understandable action.
You're going to find sooner or later there's going to be some Scientologist
stood up against the wall because he was overthrowing Earth. Let me tell
you, man. We're getting up to a point where authority could here and there
shake in its boots. But actually, more than shake in their boots, they
succumb. Because remember that the world is basically running on the basis
of exterior stimuli today. And the most stimulating stimuli there is around
in the field of human relations is us. So we couldn't help but win.
I think we could try to go backwards at this particular time. I don't think
we'd make it. I think our forward impetus is too great. I'm not even
talking hopefully. Australia is unbearably cocky at this particular
instant, see. Probably, you - none of you would find it capable of living
with any of them, you see.
They're making Clears. They're doing this and doing that. All you - all
they do is put something on the grapevine and the government does it.
That's right. I mean, it's that positive.
I had a big discussion one night with a bunch of Scientologists in
Australia. I said, "Well, the currency is inflating because you don't have
enough goods in the country to absorb the money. And the country is doing
something very stupid in that it has a very high tariff wall. Now, what we
need to do is organize a resistance against the tariff wall and keep you
from being cut off from the Commonwealth utterly." And we discussed it all
over. And we even had demonstrations that we were going to organize. And we
were going to have all the workmen in the country refuse to work with tools
on which a tariff had been paid. All the housewives to refuse to serve food
or use utensils on which anything had been paid. You know, make a bit of a
demonstration and so forth.
We never had a chance. Went straight to Canberra. Ten days later they
lifted all tariffs - all tariffs to the United States. I think they left 10
percent of them on some goods being established, were left on, but the rest
of them were all lifted.
That was quite interesting, wasn't it. It made me do a double take. I said,
"What is going on here?" Well, what was going on is very simple. Our lines
of influence were much stronger than we realized. And amongst the people I
was talking to, of course, they had lots of friends and the friends had
friends. And what we were talking about and what I was talking about was
very acceptable and they thought this was a very fine idea. And it went
straight to Canberra and it got done instantly.
There are other such instances of that down there. They're not having much
trouble now. Doctors - we made the doctors get rid of their secretary of
their association because he was objectionable to us. Goofball things like
this, but they're - the Australian Scientologist now is pretty cocky.
The South African Scientologist is getting very cocky - and should be. And
the atmosphere is changing one way or the other. And you won't notice the
degree of the influences. You will sometimes make a mistake. You'll say,
"Well, they're copying us." They're not copying you; they're obeying you!
There's a big difference. And they will change off to more practical
aspects of it as fast you get Clear. That's all there is to it.
Well, I want two by tomorrow. So you better get to work. And right now,
good night.


